tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post7743049291774052707..comments2024-03-29T03:31:54.220-06:00Comments on The Michael Bane Blog: Standing for a Different FlagMichael Banehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16630187848984050478noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-22228789998833986132008-06-29T06:30:00.000-06:002008-06-29T06:30:00.000-06:00From the previous post: "They also produced 75% o...From the previous post: "They also produced 75% of the world's cotton. That is a hell of an economic incentive."<BR/><BR/>Yes it was. After the war the cotton kept being produced and picked. And after the war the money flowed to the NORTH with the SAME PEOPLE BEING EXPLOITED. <BR/><BR/>The "freed slaves" continued with their pre-war lives (enslavement) under new northern masters....just an "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-27429054202678813682008-06-13T14:11:00.000-06:002008-06-13T14:11:00.000-06:00Lincoln was an abolitionist. The Southern slaveho...Lincoln was an abolitionist. The Southern slaveholders hated him and drummed up support for secession after he was elected (but he didn't take office until March). They saw the writing on the wall. If Lincoln took office, their slavery-expansionist policies would be halted.<BR/><BR/>The South fought to preserve slavery*. The North fought to preserve the Union, and ended slavery in doing so. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-47187501916799723862008-06-12T05:56:00.000-06:002008-06-12T05:56:00.000-06:00One comment on a comment...the German soldiers did...One comment on a comment...the German soldiers did have a grudge against the Jew...it's a revision of history to say otherwise. I've German friends and you can believe a lie or not...that's your business...but if you don't learn from history you won't be the first.<BR/><BR/>The War Between the States (no real civil disobedience here, actual governmental armed conflict between governments) was Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-33103377238189596372008-06-12T05:16:00.000-06:002008-06-12T05:16:00.000-06:00The average soldier rarely has a good comprehensio...The average soldier rarely has a good comprehension of the causes he fights for. He fights for his buddies, his family and his community. Most German soldiers in WW2 had no animus towards the Jews or other Untermensch, they fought because they were Germans and their country was at war. <BR/><BR/>I was born raised in Noo Yawk, but attended the U of Georgia. I had to fight the Civil War on a daily Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-29599411193825910312008-06-11T21:19:00.000-06:002008-06-11T21:19:00.000-06:00don,I am just all broken hearted that you are insu...don,<BR/><BR/>I am just all broken hearted that you are insulted to find out the root cause of the civil war was slavery. A grown up man just now finding that out and it must be a real shock to your system.<BR/><BR/>"The civil war was fought over states rights". That's right, the southern states wanted to continue the "right" to practice the moral abomination that was human bondage slavery. <BR/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-78045623320645669812008-06-11T20:06:00.000-06:002008-06-11T20:06:00.000-06:001akmaninfl, I take your comments to heart. I apolo...1akmaninfl, <BR/>I take your comments to heart. I apologize if it sounded like I was insulting. Without belaboring it here is a clarification. <BR/><BR/>First I was responding to MB and his saying that Sherman was a butcher and how brave were the Southerners at Franklin. Every side in a conflict believes its warriors are brave and noble and the other side less than that. Sherman was a war fighterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-6595745559313705942008-06-11T18:46:00.000-06:002008-06-11T18:46:00.000-06:00To hell with slavery. The Confederate soldier fou...To hell with slavery. The Confederate soldier fought for his "country", plain and simple. What the politicians fought for was slavery. I honestly think that if the South would have won, we would have abolished slavery anyway. Not one of the states would have signed the Constitution if they had thought they could not leave it when they wanted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-30198043248059408652008-06-11T18:37:00.000-06:002008-06-11T18:37:00.000-06:00Clay, you are always insulting people. I don't kno...Clay, you are always insulting people. I don't know why I comment on your comments.<BR/><BR/>Born and raised in Georgia. Lived my first 30 years in the south. Been in Ohio the last 28. A conservative and life long Republican.<BR/><BR/>I like these articles on the cause(es) of the War of Northern Agression (as my wife would say, she also thinks it ain't over yet).<BR/><BR/>Causes of the Civil Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-9394394697833974772008-06-11T17:39:00.000-06:002008-06-11T17:39:00.000-06:00To say that slavery was just an issue among many i...To say that slavery was just an issue among many is to short-change the issue itself. Not only does this approach ignore the formation of these United States, and the massive arguments and revisions to the Declaration of Independence and Constitution over the slavery issue, the laws that forced every slave state to join the union in concert with a free state, The Dred Scott SCOTUS case, John Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-15194804707792598102008-06-11T17:08:00.000-06:002008-06-11T17:08:00.000-06:00Hell a whole county in Alabama remained neutral, f...Hell a whole county in Alabama remained neutral, forming the "Free State of Winston" upon succession.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-81794510190042269822008-06-11T16:12:00.000-06:002008-06-11T16:12:00.000-06:00Well, nj_Larry, you've sure found a way to insult ...Well, nj_Larry, you've sure found a way to insult the memory of both Confederate and Federal armies.<BR/><BR/>As for "something not worth dieing for", most historians agree that, right or wrong, the Civil War was second only to the American Revolution in signifigance to this Country. It had an immeasurable impact on the future of this land.<BR/><BR/>That "bunch of folks that died"?. <BR/><BR/>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-8566267584951167122008-06-11T15:16:00.000-06:002008-06-11T15:16:00.000-06:00No one has said the Civil War wasn't about slavery...No one has said the Civil War wasn't about slavery. We are simply saying it wasn't the main reason or the original reason the war started.<BR/><BR/>And for the record, I was born, raised, and still live in North West Central Illinois. I can trace family lineage to both sides of the war. Politically, I am a Conservative.Peteyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10857775102210231143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-76122054294834462002008-06-11T14:17:00.000-06:002008-06-11T14:17:00.000-06:00To deny the war was fought over slavery probably t...To deny the war was fought over slavery probably tells more about where you were born and/or your current political philosphy than it does your grasp of history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-19669749661837176792008-06-11T12:35:00.000-06:002008-06-11T12:35:00.000-06:00Every side of losers whines about how brave they f...Every side of losers whines about how brave they fought. How heroic their cause. Otherwise they would have to admit the bold face lose. Personally I ain't worried about some bunch of folks that died for something not worth dieing for a hundred and fifty years ago. There are a lot more folks alive TODAY that are fighting for their lives in honorable causes to worry about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-90454565587445813912008-06-11T12:04:00.000-06:002008-06-11T12:04:00.000-06:00clayflingythingy-I must humbly disagree with your ...clayflingythingy-I must humbly disagree with your point.<BR/><BR/>The secession of the Southern States was based on States rights. Lincoln had not even taken his oath of office when South Carolina seceded. <BR/><BR/>If you were to ask a majority of the confederate soldiers why they were fighting, they would have responded "Because, you're down here." <BR/><BR/>Even Lincoln, an abolitionist, Peteyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10857775102210231143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-37240783641086339162008-06-11T11:24:00.000-06:002008-06-11T11:24:00.000-06:00I disagree clayflingythingy. Slavery was an issue,...I disagree clayflingythingy. Slavery was an issue, and an important one, but it was not the proximate cause.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-64930208104828963242008-06-11T10:53:00.000-06:002008-06-11T10:53:00.000-06:00I disagree cybscryb. The war was totally and compl...I disagree cybscryb. The war was totally and completely about slavery. West Virgina was created as a state (illegally, most likely) out of Va becuase the hill folk of Virgina didn't have a hell of a lot in common with the slave owning culture in the rest of the state. Same is true in Ky. Altho Ky remained loyal to the Union, confederate sympathies were strongest in the slave owning areas. EasternAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-35136833403058516722008-06-11T10:31:00.000-06:002008-06-11T10:31:00.000-06:00It will take years of education and reading histor...It will take years of education and reading history for those who bought into the history written by the victors to understand that the civil war and the secession of states from the union resulted from the perception of what "states rights" actually meant.<BR/><BR/>I would never want to see any human "owned" or considered legal property by another. But in the rush to drum up northern support Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com