tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post8071114784073902559..comments2024-03-28T06:11:55.879-06:00Comments on The Michael Bane Blog: Thoughts on Competition...Michael Banehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16630187848984050478noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-43927473175654226602008-07-19T17:55:00.000-06:002008-07-19T17:55:00.000-06:00I love the brave anonymous poster!!My oh my!You wa...I love the brave anonymous poster!!<BR/><BR/>My oh my!<BR/><BR/>You want proof that competition shooters will/can do better?<BR/><BR/>Can you draw your weapon in a second or less? Can you reload said weapon in a second or less?<BR/><BR/>Can you do so on the move?<BR/><BR/>Competition will teach you to do so and to refine that ability.<BR/><BR/>SPEED is a tactic. <BR/><BR/>I'm sorry McBane, but catfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08124423063293021127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-8880541677615340462008-07-16T20:32:00.000-06:002008-07-16T20:32:00.000-06:00Michael - Great post! I am very new to shooting an...Michael - Great post! I am very new to shooting and have started to participate in IDPA and USPSA. I was so intimidated at first! The matches have helped me improve my firearm handling skills tremendously. <BR/><BR/>Ahab - You are so right! It all starts with bowling pins and escalates from there. This is exactly how it happened for John. I never knew there was a pecking order :)Pretty Pistolerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10385671170397038149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-55471813463918391442008-07-16T16:37:00.000-06:002008-07-16T16:37:00.000-06:00I concede your point. I do not know of a definitiv...I concede your point. I do not know of a definitive study showing that<BR/>competition increases one's performance or survivability in a<BR/>gunfight.<BR/><BR/> However skill are improved by practice and competitive shooting is an<BR/>excellent vehicle for practicing certain shooting and gun handling<BR/>skills. It will not teach you tactics.<BR/><BR/> I don't think competition is the end-all iainmcphersnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03058046578601477769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-39508434696218439202008-07-16T08:52:00.000-06:002008-07-16T08:52:00.000-06:00iain,Just what is the evidence that shows competit...iain,<BR/><BR/>Just what is the evidence that shows competition shooters perform better in SD shootings? While Ayoob may recomend competion I can't recall a single column where he discusses gunfights and he says Joe Blow survived because he was a competition shooter. <BR/><BR/>I am not trying to diss competition shooting but I don't necessarily buy into the theory it makes a better shooter in a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-57635009240670590982008-07-15T17:32:00.000-06:002008-07-15T17:32:00.000-06:00Ayoob is also a proponent of competition. He was o...Ayoob is also a proponent of competition. He was one of the first 4 gun Masters in IDPA.<BR/><BR/> The late Jim Cirillo, one of the officers in the controversial NYPD Stake-Out Squad, once remarked that he never felt as much stress in a gunfight as he did in competition. <BR/><BR/>I agree that sounding good is not the same as being good, but in this case there is more evidence than just Michael'siainmcphersnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03058046578601477769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-82789160031891861332008-07-15T11:26:00.000-06:002008-07-15T11:26:00.000-06:00Just what data do you have indicating competition ...Just what data do you have indicating competition shooters outperform regular joes in self defense shootings?<BR/><BR/>How would you define better?<BR/><BR/>Years of reading Ayoob's columns and The Armed Citizen make me doubt your hypothesis. It sounds good but things that sound good aren't always true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-46679199314309841112008-07-15T07:53:00.000-06:002008-07-15T07:53:00.000-06:00You know, I actually blame you for getting me (bac...You know, I actually blame you for getting me (back) into practical shooting. If you didn't make it look so fun on Shooting Gallery, I wouldn't be spending boatloads of cash on .40 S&W pistols and ammo so I can shoot major.<BR/><BR/>I tell you, it starts with bowling pins, then steel, then USPSA, IDPA, and the next thing you know you're looking at an entry form for the Bianchi Cup thinking "I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-44552580307156324452008-07-14T18:18:00.000-06:002008-07-14T18:18:00.000-06:00The experience you get in clearing jams on the clo...The experience you get in clearing jams on the clock is invaluable. We ran a CCW side match at our local USPSA club Saturday. Nothing very hard, 2-3 targets at about 6 feet, 5 shots per string, two stages, starting from low ready. We had a variety of different guns, from a Walther P22, PPK, J-frame snubs, Kel-Tec 380s to a Glock 23. I usually shoot a Glock 17 so I was using my normal pocket gun, iainmcphersnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03058046578601477769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-21567278975567523612008-07-14T17:26:00.000-06:002008-07-14T17:26:00.000-06:00Unfortunately, the stress inoculation of the USPS...Unfortunately, the stress inoculation of the USPSA/IDPA timer wears off quickly.<BR/><BR/>I find that if I don't shoot a match for a few weeks, I start reverting to "timer anxiety". If I shoot more frequently, it goes away again.<BR/><BR/>Strangely enough, same thing holds with chili peppers... Have a good curry after the regular Friday night match and all's right with the world!<BR/><BR/>JoeJoe Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09610203017162443764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-56242174036169354452008-07-14T16:30:00.000-06:002008-07-14T16:30:00.000-06:00Michael: All good points and well presented, but I...Michael: All good points and well presented, but I would add that of the three, the ability to function under stress is probably the most important.<BR/><BR/>Another point I would add is "Movement". Not just learning how to shoot on the move, but simply "Moving". Believe it or not some people have to be told to "Move" or "Get Out Of The Way".<BR/><BR/>Gun fails --- Keep Moving. Fix it later Frank W. Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07589579734134153159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-81207740079117906802008-07-14T15:14:00.000-06:002008-07-14T15:14:00.000-06:00I agree with your points one and three but if your...I agree with your points one and three but if your Game doesn't have you moving off the X and getting behind cover it might bite you in the butt in a gunfight.<BR/><BR/>Ratcatcher55Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-3600964018800753432008-07-14T15:06:00.000-06:002008-07-14T15:06:00.000-06:00Gee just wondering what percentage of time during ...Gee just wondering what percentage of time during the day should a regular walking around middle class person think about shooting people, dogs and things?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8293484.post-11930924123537114552008-07-14T14:27:00.000-06:002008-07-14T14:27:00.000-06:00I think you hit the nail on the head, as long as t...I think you hit the nail on the head, as long as the person, keeps the idea of training in the back of their mind, or they may decide to play the "Game", not that's a bad thing ether.The Duckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15373439094429321148noreply@blogger.com