Tuesday, September 18, 2007
9 comments:
- iainmcphersn said...
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Well said Michael.
Ultimately the consumer makes the choice and is responsible for that choice.
Ya pay's your money and ya takes your chances. - 8:57 AM
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Michael,
I have lots of respect for both you and Jeff. You’re both on the side of improving the art we practice.
There are so much contradictory test results on bullet / rifle / target coming from good people who report data without an agenda. It's impossible to eliminate the variables, so differing results are expected.
I tend to take technical information from sales reps with a grain of salt unless they are willing to demonstrate it on the range. Mike Shovel (sp?) of Corbon is someone who I have seen do just that on a number of occasions.
I worry a lot more on how the bullet will perform on the target than on what will happen if I miss.
My rules of engagement do not allow me to try and shoot at targets I can not see: to shoot through drywall at a goblin behind a wall. Realistically I will not be shooting at moving vehicles. I'm more of the end the fight, then deal with the consequences, kind of guy.
After years of believing that a shotgun was the best CQ weapon system I must reluctantly admit the AR/AK platforms have some real advantage in this arena. I use an AR with an Aim Point optic and 55 grain ammo. Others may find another system to their liking and more power to them.
Keep up the good work.
Ratcatcher55 - 9:47 AM
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"Ultimately the consumer makes the choice".
Well yes, but we do look for knowledge and information. It helps if there is clarity. And it was appreciated to get that clarity. It helps in ultimately making that choice. That way we don't take so many chances.
Your point was...??? - 9:48 AM
- iainmcphersn said...
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I agree.
Essentially that it is up to the consumer to make and bear responsibility for their decision. Everyone's situation will vary and each person will have to decide what is right for themselves and their situation. There is a lot of information available and it's up to the consumer to decide what is best for their own situation. - 1:06 PM
- Michael Bane said...
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My point?
"A stitch in time saves nine."
"You never know what's on rail for the lizard."
"Red sky in morning; sailors take warning."
"Never have unprotected sex.,"
mb - 7:02 PM
- Michael Bane said...
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My point?
"A stitch in time saves nine."
"You never know what's on rail for the lizard."
"Red sky in morning; sailors take warning."
"Never have unprotected sex.,"
mb - 7:02 PM
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read in shotgun news just this evening about Hornady TAP. There is a "barrier penetrating" ammo type from that line, supposedly designed for use in nuclear plant defense, and totally different than their high-frag type.
- 7:37 PM
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Michael, what do your cheribums say about Blackstone in the Gun Business???
I am "Wall and Broad" kinda guy and would like to have your Seraphim confirm the rumor...... - 9:50 PM
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Yes, John, you didn't have to explain. There is a lot of information out there. And again it helps if we can get clarity. Which we did. That's what it is all about.
We are getting away from the real issue here. Bane was clear, he specified the 55 grain TAPs. PoliceOne did not specifiy, and he is one one who really needs to be informed of his lack of clarity. Of course apparently only members can give input on his site. As the War On Gus puts it, they are the "only ones".
The matter has been clarified for all of us except PoliceOne. So we've about worn this one out. - 7:22 AM
A small controversy has developed over something I said, and while it's no big, I thought it ought to be cleared up. Here's what I said, in OUTDOOR LIFE:
Here's a short summary of the controversy from regular commenter James at Hell in a Handbasket:
Here's my reply from H in a H: