This article from the Daily Times-Herald in Carroll, Iowa, was forwarded to me by Walt Rauch. Just when I think I'm too paranoid, I see something that convinces me that I'm not paranoid enough. If this article doesn't ice your blood, I'm not sure what will, so I'm printing the whole thing for you:
Guardsmen to conduct urban training at Arcadia in AprilIntrusive? This is the stuff of Nazi Germany, of Stalin's Russia, of Third World Banana Republics. Gain the trust and confidence of the residents? Right, and arbeit macht frei. Look it up if you don't already know what it means.
The Carroll National Guard unit will train on urban military operations by holding a four-day exercise at Arcadia.
The purpose of the April 2-5 drill will be to gather intelligence, then search for and apprehend a suspected weapons dealer, according to Sgt. Mike Kots, readiness NCO for Alpha Company.
Citizens, law enforcement, media and other supporters will participate.
Troops will spend Thursday, April 2, staging at a forward operations base at Carroll. The next day company leaders will conduct reconnaissance and begin patrolling the streets of Arcadia to identify possible locations of the weapons dealer.
The primary phase will be done Saturday, April 4, when convoys will be deployed from Carroll to Arcadia. Pictures of the arms dealer will be shown in Arcadia, and soldiers will go door to door asking if residents have seen the suspect.
Soldiers will knock only at households that have agreed to participate in the drill, Kots noted.
"Once credible intelligence has been gathered," said Kots, "portions of the town will be road-blocked and more in-depth searches of homes and vehicles will be conducted in accordance with the residents' wishes.
"One of the techniques we use in today's political environment is cordon and knock," Kots explained. "We ask for the head of the household, get permission to search, then have them open doors and cupboards. The homeowner maintains control. We peer over their shoulder, and the soldier uses the homeowner's body language and position to protect him."
During this phase of the operation, troops will interact with residents and media while implementing crowd-control measures and possibly treating and evacuating injured persons.
The unit will use a Blackhawk helicopter for overhead command and control, and to simulate medevacs.
The drill will culminate in the apprehension of the suspected arms dealer.
Alpha Company will conduct a review of the drill on Sunday, April 5.
A meeting to give residents more information and accept volunteers will be held 7 p.m. Monday, March 2, in the Arcadia American Legion hall.
Kots said the exercise will replace Alpha Company's weekend drill for April.
"We have a lot of extended drills this coming year," he added.
In addition to surveillance, searching and apprehension, the exercise will also give the troops valuable experience in stability, support, patrol, traffic control, vehicle searches and other skills needed for deployment in an urban environment.
"This exercise will improve the real-life operational skills of the unit," said Kots. "And it will hopefully improve the public's understanding of military operations."
The pre-drill work with residents is as important at the drill itself.
"It will be important for us to gain the trust and confidence of the residents of Arcadia," said Kots. "We will need to identify individuals that are willing to assist us in training by allowing us to search their homes and vehicles and to participate in role-playing."
"We really want to get as much information out there as possible, because this operation could be pretty intrusive to the people of Arcadia."
This is breathtaking in its implications:
• A National Guard unit or local guard is not a law enforcement agency; in fact, members of the National Guard generally only have the power to arrest and detain in a on active duty by direction of the state governor during periods of emergency or civil disorder. "Apprehend a suspected weapons dealer?" I can't even imagine a situation where the National Guard would be so tasked...except in ONE situation, and we'll talk about that later.• "We ask for the head of the household, get permission to search, then have them open doors and cupboards. The homeowner maintains control." The ACLU has been all over exactly this sort of thing for years. DO NOT EVER EVER EVER AGREE TO ALLOW ANYONE IN YOUR HOUSE WITHOUT A WARRANT!!! That is the difference between America and Bosnia, people. Exercise my butt! This is a TEST RUN!• They're allegedly searching for a suspect, so they open the doors and cupboards...they're not looking for a person, they're looking for something...
My opinion? This "exercise" is a test run for door-to-door gun confiscation. There is no other way to read it.
39 comments:
They may train for it, but I think they will have trouble getting many guardsmen to participate in the real thing.
This administration needs to be reminded that while the People of the Gun don't have the power to control this country, they do have the power to see that no one else can, to reduce it to anarchy. "Après moi, le déluge"
Hasn't the army and national guard been doing this for a while... In Iraq? Isn't that what the training is for? Where else are you going to train for this? Training locally saves money.
I spend a lot of time with military trainers...if a unit thinks they can train for Iraq by running exercises of these types in Iowa, they are worse than stupid...they are risking their people's lives.
mb
Where else are you going to train for this?
in the theater where they're actually doing it. set up a mock town and train that way. DO NOT use the American bloody public for something taking place elsewhere.
i thought something like that would be common sense...
I think most army units will do this, just following orders.
It's one of the reasons I want a new oath to be given to all soldiers and training to not fire upon U.S. civilians.
The military has mock towns to train in and they spend months doing so prior to deployment.
This IS exactly the sort of operations they have been doing in Iraq. And the type of operations that will be conducted in Afghanistan.
One of the problems we had in Iraq in the early days was that no one had ANY training for "stability operations" (cordon and search ) while Iowa may not be the best place to train for Iraq, ( Climate, Customs and Language) it does familiarize the troops with the methods involved. Waiting till they have deployed to do the training is doubly wasteful in that
1) Part of the reason they get the "down time" is for training purposes, so NOT training would be stupid.
2)Training in theater means that either they must be sent over early which means an even longer tour away from home and higher cost to deploy the unit, or
3) They deploy on time, then go through the training, which results in either the unit they are replacing having to wait for them to finish training before they can go home, or an area is left uncovered for Al Queda and friends because the unit that WAS covering it is gone and the one that's supposed to be covering it is going through training they should have gotten in the States.
Tom Bogan
I am buying off the grid guns. Nothing but private buys from now on. THEY ARE GOING TO COME FOR OUR GUNS.
I learned something new:
Under the Posse Comitatus Act, the armed services are generally prohibited from engaging in law enforcement activities inside the United States but not apply to National Guard forces unless they are mobilized as federal troops. http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/tst050406a.cfm
To those who think this has anything to do with Iraq: A web search found there are Iraqi training villages at the Joint Readiness Training Center
Fort Polk, LA and the National Training Center Ft. Irwin, CA and probably more. Also on Jan. 15, 2009 Navy officials broke ground on a $5.3 million mock Iraqi village at Naval Base Ventura County and it’s expected to be done in nine months. http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2009/jan/16/troops-to-train-at-bases-mock-iraqi-village/
When you add all the horrific SWAT type raids in which citizens and their pets are killed for drug raids with the flimsiest evidence used to obtain the warrant, absolutely no good can come from using the NG as police. No one was injured in this raid but it shows how bad things really are. The story is below the videos. http://nevergetbusted.com/kopbusters/news.php?action=read&nid=1
I have the utmost respect for our men and women in uniform, both military and law enforcement, but things are clearly out of hand and training the NG for domestic police operations can only make things worse.
Yep...The Parallels to 1933 Germany are becoming downright Scary.
It amazes me that there are people who will volunteer to allow the National Guard to search their house as "training". Who are these people and how stupid can they be?
"...go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
The government may be out to get us but these types of exercises have been going on for a VERY long time, long before Obummer was even born. While there are bad implications of this I am of the opinion that as Tom mentioned, the only way to get this type of training BEFORE deploying is to set it up yourself and conduct it where and when you can. Yes, there are training "villages" popping up all over the map to train in but moving a Company sized unit a thousand miles for a two-four day exercise is typically outside the operating budget of an individual unit. The facilities are used by larger units, say battalion or bigger, or for preplanned exercises, again using larger groups such as having multiple units provide personnel. Is it the same as being "over there", no. Is it better than nothing? Hell yes. No disrespect Mr. Bane, but I know my unit doesn't have the money or time to send our people to Blackwater or even to FLETC Cheltenham (right outside the back gate) for a week to get them ready for a deployment so we have to use the equipment we have at our disposal and the location we're at. We have made it as realistic as possible but can't make it perfect. I would be happy to be able to have the assistance of the local LE and public to add to our training. I have been a part of Escape/Evasion exercises that had the local police and public looking for the “downed aircrew” just as if we were in a hostile country. We had to get basically across the county while evading hostile military (SEALs and Marine Recon), the cops, and most of the public (some were “partisans/resistance fighters”) while trying to get found by a rescue team or getting to a safe area.
Everyone sleeps & eats somewhere.
Taking a stand in your own home is not the place to do it.
Taking a stand in your own home when someone else is running the operation is a reaction and not the time to do it.
So long as the sheep don't recognize their slaughter, smile, pay your taxes and live.
Everyone sleeps and eats somewhere.
I have noticed a few things -
Most wars in the last 30 years have had a huge urban component to them - Granada, Panama, Somalia, Bosnia, Iraq 1 and 2, etc. I always assumed that was because someone wanted urban military training for the Army etc. We never did go to Uganda, did we?
There have been sporadic reports like this, "secret" compounds, non-descript unmarked uniforms, gray mirrored face shields on helmeted military, etc.
There was another urban training planned for Chicago I think, a couple of years ago, it was cancelled as I recall, but I cannot recall the reason.
Do you think that people who refuse to "volunteer will be logged somewhere? I do. Most people won't see anything wrong with volunteering, and most sheeple will actually get off on "helping".
When the Feds come, they will come hard and fast to known specific targets simultaneously - and in large numbers. Laws like the NG not being allowed to do police work will not matter. Hell, the Constitution does not matter, you think a law will?
The NG will do low-level police work, securing an area and the such, not the actual seizures - this is something of a smoke screen.
Unless the Feds do what the Chinese did at Tienanmen Square - get rid of the locals who had too many emotional ties with the people, and bring in the Manchurians instead. Like Katrina, bring in cops who want to be "heros" and see action to do the thug work.
So Iowa Guard might be sent to say, NYC - completely out of their element and easier to direct, and control. Wanna be from Ottumwa IA and then face a court martial in NYC for refusal to obey an order? I think not.
As Gresham says, if it is time to bury your guns, it it probably time to dig them up and use them.
I will add on to what the others that have been in this situation have stated. Unless you have been in the NG and dealt with the lack of funds and lack of training opportunities then you might be inclined to assign sinister reasoning to the unit's activities. But, thinking that a company could pack up and go to NTC or JRTC on a weekend drill, let alone use a Navy facility, is the result of a lack of understanding of NG and Army training activities. NTC and JRTC (and even more local training areas if available)are reserved for units well in advance. NTC and JRTC are typically used for the final sign off before a deployment. And Fort Polk, LA is no more like the areas that we are deploying than Iowa. We use local areas all of the time, there is no other way to get ready. Our training is a result of the fact that we have to do the same training as Big Army but we have weekends to do it rather than weeks and this is the only way. And we pull it off.
And, by the way, if you are all worried about NG units coming to take your stuff then you should would be more concerned with the high level of competence that soldiers have coming back from doing it overseas not on a weekend drill at home. When we do it there, it is for real, not playing in your neighborhood. This story is nothing to be concerned about.
We're from the government and we're here to help you.
Right.
Remember Katrina?
If you want to contact the Guard in Iowa and advise them of their stupidity, here is some contact info:
Office of The Adjutant General of Iowa
Joint Forces Headquarters
7105 NW 70th Avenue
Johnston, Iowa 50131-1824
515-252-4211
Maj Gen Ron Dardis, Adj Gen.
Unit Info:
Co A (-) 1st Bn 168 IN Carroll, IA
712-792-1545
HQ for 1-168 IN is in Council Bluffs. 712-322-1168
WTF is going to happen to an Iowan who is licensed to carry a concealed weapon when he/she is caught up in this dragnet dry run? How do you think the NAT GUARD is going to respond? I hesitate to even guess.
MB you have to take a breath...relax...and say your sorry.
The military is not taking over Iowa (who in their right mind would want it?) and the NG is doing what they think will keep weekend warriors in some level of fitness and mentally prepared for a very risky ordeal in the middle east. I humbly suggest you do a SG or BD on the military and how stretched and overtaxed they are.
All the palaver about this exercise is coming from basement Bob's reading Solider of Fortune. When you have responsibilty for thousands of souls you do whatever you can. Just put yourself in the position of commanding such a group. How many lives are you willing to loose in some shit hole in the middle east because it wasn't politically correct to train in some or any manner(remember that pc cuts both ways)?
NOT doing this kind of improvised training risks lives.
Boy, there sure are a lot of Fudds reading your Blog!
The bleating of the sheep in the responses to this blog is very interesting....I love it when one told us "there is nothing to be concerned about."
My how some have forgotten or never learned the lessons from Ruby Ridge or Waco.....
Right George.
And then there are sheepdogs who are naive. Yes we know they aren't confiscating real guns from real citizens now.....it's like a frog....put him in water, turn on the fire....pretty soon he's dinner and never felt the heat.
Remember the young take things for granted and doubt things that were that they have never seen...like honesty, truth, justice and the American Way.....truth is what they see and hear, wisdom will come later for them...perhaps too late for us all.
Pity....pitting the group that is the greatest supporter of the military and law enforcement, gun owners, against one another. Divide and conquer....
Well, Obama did say he wanted troops to act as Homeland Security. In other words, the Blightworker wants his own SS.
And then there's the city in Texas (Killen-maybe) that "rents" swat and other LE services from the local army base. God help the Republic. the mushroom
According to a link I got from Matthew Bracken, the Iowa NG has scrapped this exercise.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=89527
Am I wrong, or wasn't the National Guard nationalized in 1940? Ask somebody in the Guard if their paycheck is out of the state Treasury or Federal?
Aren't there enough defunct/abandoned bases around from the rounds of base closures where they could train?
The link to the WND story is broken. Let's see if I can get it to work.
Arcadia Invasion Scaled Back
From that article:
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Military spokesman Lt. Col. Greg Hapgood, however, told WND that the operation has now been "scaled back" and no longer involves an "invasion" of Arcadia.
And while Hapgood confirmed the Guard had been inundated with objections from citizens concerned about soldiers patrolling the streets of an American town, he said most came from people out of state and unfamiliar with the operation. Iowans, he explained, typically cooperate with the Guard. The change in plans was based on troop evaluation, he said, not public outcry.
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[My emphasis]
I see Tom Bogan's, Mutt's, and JNevis' comments, and I admit they sound more knowledgeable than me. To me, the whole thing hinges on how typical this exercise is compared to past exercises.
Co-operating with Guard and military training generally strikes me as a good thing. I want my military to be competent, and if that means letting them roam over the countryside near their bases, even participating in some role-playing, so be it.
Cooperating with the Guard to the extent of allowing them to search your home for weapons -- that sounds hinky to me.
Now, if exercises that include searching private homes are routine, and Arcadia and Carroll residents are accustomed to them...OK, I guess.
My concern skyrockets, however, if this is a new thing. My concern is not that soldiers are being taught to invade -- my concern is that Americans are being taught to not resist.
So I guess in George's opinion, my 15 years in the NG has indoctrinated me and I can't wait to get the orders to come take his weapons. Only, it is not the training but the people being trained that determines whether it will be abused. You volunteering to help as part of a pre-deployment training exercise is no more threatening than my driving a Hummer through a city park or ruck marching through town. It creates muscle memory and creates familiarity with the processes that will be used overseas. You can take this one story and inflate it for your own purpose, but keep in mind that we are trained well enough and equipped well enough to take on any homeland mission you could dream up with or without that bit of training and have always had the capability. Why is this one story of one training event all of the sudden a problem? We don't go out playing police man as NG soldiers any more than we do as CHL holders. Oh yeah, we answer to the Governors, for you that wonder.
Mutt, there's a difference between vehicles in the city parks and on the roads, and soldiers in people's homes. The issue is not training the Guard, which, as I noted above, I fully support, it's training the citizens to cooperate with actions like this.
I think the tension would be far, far less if there wasn't such widespread hostility to the idea of an armed citizenry, if we in fact had an actual well regulated militia, and if we didn't have a socialist President with associates who have talked about rounding up dissenting citizens in re-education camps.
You can take this one story and inflate it for your own purpose, but keep in mind that we are trained well enough and equipped well enough to take on any homeland mission you could dream up with or without that bit of training and have always had the capability.
So do they need the training or not?
Make up your mind.
There is a nice facility in Kansas complete with paid locals playing the part of indigenous citizenry.
Would be much better to look at and react to women wearing burkhas and men wearing table cloths than Joe Iowan don't ya think???
Go there!!
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/camp-dodge.htm
Overload, Tom Brogan:
See this story on Fort Irwin, which had 1600 military and civilian Red Team players, including 250 Iraqi-Americans:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_34/b3998435.htm
Or this story on theater immersion:
http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/2005-08/2005-08-05-voa22.cfm
There's no way the Iowa exercise was targeted for overseas deployment. And if it had been, they likely would have mentioned it up front.
"Apprehend a suspected weapons dealer?" I can't even imagine a situation where the National Guard would be so tasked..."
Well, we've been letting cops act like soldiers for the last thirty years or so. May as well let soldiers act like cops.
Would someone please refresh my memory. Who was it that shot those college students at Kent State University in Ohio? I'm gettin' old and can't remember.
Life Member
P. S.: I'm still too young to be bull-shitted though.
I think I have a new design for a door mat. It will be embroidered with this:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. "
And then if the National Guardsmen feel like sticking around too long and wearing out their welcome, the mat for the back door will have this printed on it:
"No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law."
Ya know, at least with those two doormats, some of the National Guardsmen and/or other "jack booted thugs" will at least have glanced at parts of the Constitution before entering my house.
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