Now the LCP...the most successful gun launch in recent history...probably my most favorite new gun and my regular pocket pistol.
Jerez...DRTV has the details, and my contacts at Ruger (who are VERY unhappy) tell me they have the fix and the recall will go "smoothly."
Sigh...more as I can get it.
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Dan Pickett of Cooper Firearms just replied to my email earlier this afternoon. The Board has asked Dan Cooper to resign as President. I don't think we could ask for more at this point; an apology from Dan himself appears unlikely in any event. But this is good enough for me and I will buy Coopers in the future.
Email from Dan here: http://www.softgreenglow.com/wp/?p=6633
My letter to Cooper here:
http://www.softgreenglow.com/wp/?p=6632
Whoops, sorry, posted the above in the wrong thread.
Crikey. :(
I bought an SR9, based on web reports (yours as well as a lot of positive feedback on the Enos Forum), shot it and liked it. Turned out it was one of the recalled models... Took a bit longer than I would have thought waiting for the "box", but once the box arrived the retrofit was done quickly and professionally.
Now with the new recall, I've really got to wonder what's going on with Ruger.... I was willing to write off the SR9 as a mistake that was but now with the new recall added to the list?
That can't be good for the company.
I think Ruger needs to close the Prescott factory and get out of the polymer, centerfire, semi-auto business.
AFAIK, Kel Tec hasn't had a recall on the P3 AT. Ruger copies the gun and screws it up?
This is two failed product launches in a row for Ruger.
In the future I would advise everyone to avoid new model launches from Ruger like the plague.
I think Ruger needs to close the Prescott factory and get out of the polymer, centerfire, semi-auto business.
You might be right. Trouble is, that pretty much cedes that critical market (as far as U.S. makers are concerned) to their arch-rival S&W, whose M&P pistol design is a massive hit: just an overwhelmingly more serious and superior pistol than the SR9 or anything else Ruger's offered in that category.
In summary: Yikes.
As Jim Shepard notes today in the Outdoor Wire:
While the action is definitive, the firestorm of controversy continues. As bloggers have noted, Cooper's resignation hasn't been announced. As one of the co-founders of the company, there's also a probability that Cooper still owns a stake in the company. One blogger summed up many of the posts regarding Cooper: "I'm sorry, but this is one of those 'I need to see the head on a pike' situations before I'm ready to call it quits."
Me too...
I'm a bit confused by all the criticism.
The SR-9 recall occurred when Ruger discovered a drop-fire case that many were not even able to reproduce deliberately with the models in question. In fact, the unmodified Ruger SR-9s are in fact more drop safe than many handguns out there. But they chose to update the design, recall the old models...all in the name of the highest commitment to safety.
Likewise, the Ruger LCP (which was NOT based on the P3AT, the P3AT and LCP were both based on an earlier firearm). And Ruger discovered a risk and launched a recall. (I wonder if the P3AT is susceptible to the same risk, just not being recalled.)
But we're talking about Ruger. The same company that has ads on the gun shows for what is essentially a recall on a 60 yr old fire arm - the Single-Six. And offer free replacement and upgrade to the "New Model" mechanism. Sure, we could knock Ruger on how they could have released the Single-Six with such a safety flaw. Unthinkable...obviously they should have closed the New Hampshire and Connecticut facilities. Oh, but that's right...the flaw is actually about a 100 yrs old. But Ruger has gone the extra step for safety.
So when people rip them for having recalls. I think awfully unfair.
- N.U.G.U.N.
I signed up to send my LCP back for the mods, but would like to know what the problem is and how many dropped pistols have gone off.
"...arch-rival S&W, whose M&P pistol design is a massive hit..."
Yeah, the same M&P pistols where the magazines fall out while shooting. I HAD three of those M&P pistols and all of them were defective. But unlike Ruger that has the balls to issue a recall when they discover a problem, S&W let me and many other M&P owners find out on my own that they had problems with the mags popping out unexpectedly from their guns. No warnings, no bulletins, no nothing. Feh.
Mine is a 370-xxx, so I signed up and will wait for my box and label. I'm not worried, and I'll carry it with a round chambered today.
Does anybody remember the Glock "trigger problem" that no one could duplicate in testing? The one that spawned the "New York Trigger" parts. If you're a NYPD officer, and a negligent discharge would go on your record as a small black mark, you might instead say, "Uh, I dropped it...yeah, that's it, I dropped it, and it just went off!" Not my finger inside the trigger guard when I holstered the weapon...nope, not me.
I have an LCP. I have confidence in it. Ruger customer service is exemplary. When I asked for the updated hold-back, they sent it to me at no charge. The LCP was the first gun I ever worked on, but I was able to make the change without much difficulty even though it is taken apart considerably to make the exchange.
The fact that they initiated a recall when it is not clear that they were required to do so increases my admiration for the company.
I feel bad for the crap Ruger will get over this. But they are a good company and will handle this well. The LCP and SR9 launches were 2 of the best product launches in the industry. Their only blemish is the recall - which is obviously a big deal. Up until that point though, they demonstrated an uncanny ability to introduce a product the right way.
Here's my slant on things: The next time we hear someone complain about foreign competetion, or jobs going off-shore, or companies going out of business, we should look at these examples and ask ourselves: "What went right?" and "What went wrong?". Another big name company recently came out with "their" rendition of the venerable "1911" and screwed it up too! It had only been on the market for 90 years, but they had to put their mark on it. The firing-pin block safety plunger stuck! WTF? Read my lips: WE ARE ALL CAPABLE OF BETTER! If not, resign and get out of the way. There is someone waiting outside the door, just praying to have your job! That's how my boss used to talk to us and in a recent note, I told how my company got to be tied with the Japanese for quality ratings by the CUSTOMER and we ain't done yet!
Support companies if they redeem themselves, but ask them to fall on their swords if they lie to you.
Now, lets all get to work, this writer included!
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After I learned more about the SR9 recall, I think it was less about being "drop-safe" than about replacing the mag safety mechanism (which works on guns that can be decocked...not so much for striker-fired ones). I'll bet this LCP recall will be for something similar in design....and end up being an improvement to the design.
Like buying a car, it seems best to wait for a model of gun to be on the market for a couple of years before buying so the bugs get worked out of the design.
...and I think Ruger got it right with the P345 design....let's get back to the hammer guns, shall we?
Can someone tell me specifically what is being done to the LCP's. The recall said it was addressing the accidental firing issue and some other operational issues. WHat are they? and what do they address.
Mike
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